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May 20, 2011


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as for the poppy growing problem in afghanistan.
wasnt it the british and the british east india company that forced the afghan farmers to grow the poppy.

remember the opium wars or the anglo-chinese wars 1839-42.

there wouldnt be an opium problem there if it wasnt for the wests greed.


That is to say, at least we know the reason we attacked Afghanistan, unlike the oil we didn't attack Iraq for.

are you saying you believe it was because of 9/11,7/7 and other terrorist acts done by osama bin laden and alkieda?

The war in Afghanistan is part of a profit driven agenda: a war of economic conquest and plunder, "a resource war".

your thread about politicians and the revolving door is a bigger story than you realise and with a little research it all becomes clear.

ask yourself,who is profiting from these wars?

answer multinational companies.
they will make trillions and trillions over the decades from our soldiers sacrifices.

the main reasons we are in afghanistan and will remain there for many decades are:

1:Afghanistan is acknowledged as a strategic hub in Central Asia, bordering on the former Soviet Union, China and Iran and pakistan.

2:its is at the crossroads of pipeline routes and major oil and gas reserves.

3:it has huge mineral wealth as well as its untapped oil and natural gas reserves.

western multinational companies want to control all the natural resources in the regions.

An internal Pentagon memo states that Afghanistan could become the “Saudi Arabia of lithium,” a key raw material in the manufacture of batteries for laptops and BlackBerrys.

wake up and smell the coffee


Iraqi's are still dying in fairly large numbers of course even over our final years of benificient occupation

According to AFP's tally, a total of 2,505 civilians were killed in 2010 -- down 295 from 2,800 the year before.

But William Hague thinks we done good, 'Iraq war was worth it'‎

Well I guess everything is worth it when it's other people in other nations who actually pay the real price, in death, blood and suffering.


That is to say, at least we know the reason we attacked Afghanistan, unlike the oil we didn't attack Iraq for.


Horror of horrors, in 2010, the poppy harvest declined 48% from 2009.
Which given the hard work of the US NATO forces in increasing the area of land under cultivation and the worlds supply of heroin, is presumably a pity.

But every cloud has a silver lining and while the total harvest was down, prices are up
"The total estimated farm-gate income of opium growing farmers amounted to US$ 604 million. This is a significant increase from 2009, when farm-gate income for opium was estimated at US$ 438 million."


So, once again, Afghanistan is still proving a worthwhile investment for those interested in supplying the illegal drug trade.

That is why we helped the US invade right?

Paul Flynn

I have heard far less plausible theories, Richard. It's the old devil of unintended consequences striking again. How simple war are when they start. Almost always they end up in a dreadful unexpected mess. Not that the perpertraors of war ever admit that.

Richard Thomas

I do wonder, only slightly flippantly, whether Blair and Bush were in the pay of the Iranian government since their intervention in Iraq (and Afghanistan) has almost completely been to the advantage of Iran - Saddam toppled; Iraq ruined; a Shi'ite majority government installed in Baghdad; the Taliban ousted in Afghanistan and the Sunni government of Pakistan ruined. There's obviously more.

The dangers of ignorance, aggravated by a messianic mission, should be obvious but Liam Fox seems immune from the capacity to think, let alone understand.

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