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December 22, 2009

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Kay Tie

"Have a good look at the Tory candiadates KayTie. They are nearly all lobbyists or political nerds who have never done a real job. That's no way to improve parliament."

And the Labour candidates are different? What has Gordon Brown done in life other than politics? His thesis was on the Labour Party! Ed Balls? Harriet Harman? Even John Prescott was a steward for only a short time before becoming a union activist and full-time political careerist.

The trouble with politics is that it is a career path.

Paul Flynn

Have a good look at the Tory candiadates KayTie. They are nearly all lobbyists or political nerds who have never done a real job. That's no way to improve parliament.

Kay Tie

"the paranoid Reaganite rhetoric of 'small government', which always means less support for the poor and plenty for vested interests."

Because socialists always look after the poor, don't they? Those people killed by MRSA or starved to death in hospitals have been supported well, don't you think?

Look to other countries to see what unchecked socialism does: in the glorious socialist paradise of Cuba, bloggers critical of the state are beaten up and threatened with death. And the less said about North Korea the better.

The Tories are merely a checking process on this foul government. You need to hold your nose and vote for whoever will toss out your local Labour MP.

Kay Tie

"I did not think it was as final as you suggest. We'll see."

I hope we do see - see it abolished. Getting permission from the Government 24 hours in advance to take a ferry to the Isle of Wight is not my idea of a free country.

Paul Flynn

Read the link you sent KayTie. I did not think it was as final as you suggest. We'll see.

Paul Flynn

Thanks Aidan. I still remain optimistic locally and hopeful nationally. There is still a dread of the Tories.

The most recent figures show that the recover in the summer was only half as serious as thought 0.2% rather than 0.4%. Better news come be forthcoming for the past three months

Thanks for your message throughout the year.

Paul Flynn

Cheer up Tony. You have a clear choice in Newport West. It will be limited if it follows the pattern of the past 100 years between a Classic Labour candidate with a track record of independence and an unknown Tory. I am hoping that votes for other parties will polarised in the final vote, between the two likely candiadtes.

Aidan

Happy Christmas Paul.
I'm desperate for the Tories not to win: their language is rapidly returning to the paranoid Reaganite rhetoric of 'small government', which always means less support for the poor and plenty for vested interests.

That said, and I'm sorry to be in this position as a party member, a much reduced Labour majority would be helpful - clear out the neo-Tory New Labour MPs in former Tory seats (though I would desperately miss Bob Marshall-Andrews). Reliance on the Lib Dems, Plaid and the SNP might curb the more authoritarian instincts of the party's current leadership and hand more power back to backbenchers - one of the worst features of this government has been the vast pool of obedient voting fodder, like my MP. His only vote against the government was on Parliamentary hours, though he didn't like student fees.

How do you feel about Plaid being excluded from the leadership debates? Tricky one…

How do you

Kay Tie

"seen what e-Borders means for people leaving the country ? "

e-Borders is an absolute farce. It's illegal under EU law:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/18/e_borders_confusion/

Tony

Interesting eh?

Well the choice as I see it is a little limited because the three main parties don't actually disagree about much - I think that the difference in spending priorities is around 1 - 1.5% so what am I voting for ?

In all cases 5 years of tax hikes and reduction in public spending
Tories and Labour both support the Afghan adventure (with a few exceptions of course..)

The erosion of civil liberties in the name of public safety is set to continue - seen what e-Borders means for people leaving the country ?

What I think is that people will decide that its going to be the same whoever they vote for so why bother ?

The thing is that GB seems to want 5 more years of the same - and I just don't think that will work. The recession we have now is possibly the worst since the 20's and yet GB says we were uniquely placed to recover - the last major economy still in recession and the pain will continue in 2010 - people loosing their jobs and companies going under ..

The Tories may not have 'done the deal' but the economic upheaval will be remembered ..

Kay Tie

"The next six months will be very interesting."

Oh yes. You wait til the economy gets really nasty. We'll be reprising the politics of the 1930s.

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