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November 21, 2009

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Dawn

Paul said >>> "How can anyone take the Sun seriously? few do, I understand. even their own readers don't believe a word they say. they rely on the Beeb. Murdoch is manipulator of news. His son is worse."

And of course that doyen of unbiased, truthful, centrist reportage, Mr Murdoch and his heir apparent, are campaigning hard to get the Beeb disembowelled for 'unfair competition', posturing as if the Murdoch empire is some puny David trying to take down the freedom of speech crushing Goliath Beeb.

I still can't make up my mind whether we should laugh or cry. In a sensible, just, balanced world we would just laugh it off.
Oh, okay tears before bedtime then, I guess.

John

Just because readers of the sun may be ordinary people doesn't mean one cannot insult them for reading it.

The more ordinary people wake up to the nonsense they are fed through papers like the sun and the mail the better our society will be in my humble opinion.


Kay Tie

Clearly the Labour Party takes the Sun seriously. Fortunately, that does fall under the term "few".

My point was not about the Sun, but the insulting of Sun readers: they are ordinary people. It's telling just what contempt there is for them. It's typical of a socialist to despise ordinary people for having failed socialism.

Tony

I thought the second one might have some validity ..
As for the rest, possibly be intersting to see how the electorate look at it ..
The banks were encouraged, they have been bailed out and its not made any real difference to the way they operate .. as I said exaggerated possibly but not baloney ..

Paul Flynn

first one is true, Tony. the rest, baloney

Paul Flynn

How can anyone take the Sun seriously? few do, I understand. even their own readers don't believe a word they say. they rely on the Beeb. Murdoch is manipulator of news. His son is worse.

 Patrick

The Mickey Mouse stories of vicars having intercourse with parrots, the schoolboy editorials, the lavatorial humour, the breasts on page 3, the sex chat ,the bingo ...

Yes it's win win win with the Sun!

Have you been a lifelong subscriber Kay-Tie ?

Tony

An alternative Queens Speech .. controversial , exaggerated of course but I thought it had some good points ..

“My government will mislead the public and parliament and launch an illegal war against a Third World country which will result in at least 250,000 dead, not including British soldiers.

“My government will launch another war against a Third World country but will not give its soldiers the requisite helicopters, guns, body armour etc, and not have the remotest clue what it hopes to achieve.

“My government will encourage the financial institutions to bankrupt the country and, having done so, will claim the credit for having spent unimaginable sums of your money bailing them out.

“My government will then get you to pay again for the above, either through job cuts or a freeze on wages or higher taxes.

“My government will lie through its teeth about a referendum on the Lisbon treaty, lie through its teeth about levels of immigration.

“My government will enact countless and pointless anti-hate crime legislation which will make you scared stiff to so much as open your mouth.”

HuwOS

Honestly Patrick, your statement is insulting, comics represent more talent, effort and are of much greater social value than the sun is.

Everything else you say about that rag is of course, true.

Kay Tie

The essence of socialism: dictatorship of the proletariat because they don't know what's good for them. Naughty workers, buying the Sun. Can't have that.

 Patrick

"So probably best not to insult them just because the Sun changed to support the Tories."

They insult themselves every time they buy their daily comic.

The sun did not change to support the Tories. It supported Thatcher , Major then Blair (whilst they had public support).
With public support diminishing they have switched from the new-Tories back to the mother ship.

It promotes populist, jingoistic piffle and it's only worthy uses are to help dry out shoes, wrap up chips or ignite a fire.


Kay Tie

" That's too much - even for sun readers"

Because of their numbers are best described as "the ordinary British public." So probably best not to insult them just because the Sun changed to support the Tories.

paddy Ashdown

THank you for this generous and swift correction.

P

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