The Almighty Lobbying Panjamdrum rolls on.
As much as £500,000 may been spent to persuade the country that the Exclusive Brethren deserves Charity Status. Under the rules that do not qualify. They have intepreted this rejection as an attack on their cult and on, amazingly, Christianity. This is inventive spin but it has convinced some gullible MPs seeking to find prejudice where it does not exists. The Exclusives are trying to rebrand themselves as 'Christian Brethren.'
Below is very reasonable contribtion to the correspendence of my website. The letter is calm, moderate and informative. If you are interested in learning more follow the links.
Brian says @ December 22, 2012 at 09:51
“I presume the name of Hales Exclusive Brethren has been made up by persons who have a personal axe to grind. I can’t find this anywhere on their website”
Brian – Please stop trying to play the “victim”, its wearing thin. What is happening here is the “Truth” is being exposed and the Exclusive Brethren don’t like being unmasked !!
Brian – As you well know yourself, the current website only went live on the internet on the 8th of Nov 2012. It is a new website which fails to tell the truth about who the Plymouth Brethren Christian Church really are !
Brian – Why is there no mention at all of the 1848 Bethesda division in the Plymouth Brethren which resulted in two separate groups being formed which were very individual and distinctive and very different in doctrinal practice. These two groups were the “Open Brethren” and the “Exclusive Brethren” - why is this not mentioned ??
Brian – You well know that information is readily available on the internet about the history of the Plymouth Brethren and the Divisions within it. As just “One” example, look at the following website which discuses JN Darby whom you say you follow.
http://www.johndarby.org/
Brian – go onto this website and learn more about who Darby was and his life and doctrines. Look at the page detailing “Difficulties” and learn about the “Letter Of The Ten” and the “Division” in the Plymouth Brethren and the creation of the Exclusive movement. Why is this not mentioned on the new (Nov 8th 2012) Plymouth Brethren Christian Church website ??
Brian – Why was the old website changed ? What was wrong with it ?, was it too “honest” about who the Exclusive Brethren are ?. The site used to be –
www.theexclusivebrethren.com
This was much clearer about who you where and what you actually stood for and practiced. It even detailed previous leaders of the Exclusive Brethren, previous universal leaders or “men of God” such as FE Raven, James Taylor Senior, James Taylor Junior, JH Symington, JS Hales and Bruce Hales the current leader.
Fortunately the old website I still available on the following link –
http://web.archive.org/web/20110718171429/http://www.theexclusivebrethren.com/
Brian – No one has a “personal axe to grind” is simply about telling the “TRUTH”, which all Christians are supposed to do, are they not ??
Commenter name: AN Groves
Jonathan
Paul Flynn says:
"In the interests of avoiding damaging the brains of readers, comments that ceaselessly repeat old arguments will be deleted"
So be careful not to upset him.
It is the season of goodwill so better not post the same thing twice on two of his articles!
Only he can do this as you would know!
Have a good break.
Merry Christmas Jonathan and Mr Flynn.
Trust you have a happy new year.
I look forward to further chats next year.
All the best.
Posted by: John Handel | December 25, 2012 at 12:59 AM
For all the posters on this site in need of an education, this is the exclusive brethren we are talking about, not the brethren in general (the website theexclusivebrethren.com redirects to their new, deceptive site).
They may hand out sandwiches to firemen, but they wouldn't sit down to lunch with them, or even eat with family members who have left the group.
Many MPs are being hoodwinked and need to do some research before jumping on the anti-Charity Commission bandwagon.
The EB do not deserve charity status. For more info on this group, see peebs.net.
P.S. If you go to theexclusivebrethren.com and view their "gospel hall" locations (itself a deception as only the Open Brethren have used this terminology in the past), then do some searching and viewing on google maps you'll see some of their buildings (e.g. at GU3 1JR). Not very inviting, are they? (a lot you can't even see, being purposely hidden by hedges, and nearly all have steel bar gates at the front. You'll also notice a lack of clear windows - they'll either be bricked over or blanked out).
Posted by: Jonathan | December 23, 2012 at 10:47 PM