Total number of British deaths in Afghanistan = 430
Something was certain to blow.
It’s been seven days of hot churning emotion that led to my expulsion from the Commons for the first time in 25 years.
Last Thursday, Minister Justine Greening demeaned and insulted the Commons with a saccharine flavoured quarterly report on Afghanistan. It was stuffed with the culpable self-deluding optimism that has led to the deaths of hundreds of our soldiers. Justine looked forward to a happy-ever-after corruption and drugs-free Afghanistan.
Green on blue attacks? …Sorted. Rampaging corruption? …No worry. Mass exit of the troops of our allies? …Never heard of it. We'll have to wait. The UK's exit from the hell of Afghanistan is being delayed so that it can be spun as a victory for politicians.
On Sunday I attended the Merchant Navy memorial service on Tower Hill. One in four of them died in WW11 – a higher proportion than any other service. Admiral Lord West was there. No Government minister or royalty turned up. Ingrates.
The Afghan nightmare continues untouched by Government optimism. By Monday three more British soldiers had been killed. Defence Secretary Philip Hammond was dragged to the House by a backbencher’s urgent question. He patronised and postured. He would never fall for the Taliban’s trick of trying to divide ISAF from Afghan trainee soldiers. Not our Philip. John Redwood and I urged him to bring our troops home by Christmas. The Dutch and Canadians have already pulled out of the mission impossible. France and New Zealand are leaving earlier than planned. Isn't the UK an independent nation?
Hammond offered a despicable justification for more war without ending. ‘Four hundred and thirty British service personnel have given their lives, and we intend to protect that legacy by ensuring that the UK’s national security interests are protected in future by training and mentoring the Afghan national security forces.’
His argument is, to justify the waste of 430 lives by foolish politicians, more lives should be lost. Since the expulsion of al-Qaida there has been no threat to British security from Afghanistan. The Taliban attack us because we are occupying their country not because they plan terrorism on the streets of the UK.
Later on Monday afternoon I began to read the list of the fallen in Afghanistan. 25 of my Early Day Motions have filled 13 pages of the Commons motions paper for the past two weeks. I previously sought an arrangement for the full list to be read in the Commons. The Speaker courteously stopped me. ‘Mr. Flynn raised with me his view that there should be a formal oral recording, periodically, of lives lost, and asked me to look into the matter. I said that I would, and I am doing so, and I think it wise to proceed on the basis of consultation. I intend to speak very soon to the Leader of the House, the shadow Leader of the House and various others about the matter, and then to revert to the hon. Gentleman.’ I was delighted with that assurance and ended the reading.
Tuesday dawned with the news that ISAF had fallen for the precise Taliban trick that Hammond said would never fool him. Humiliated, he was dragged back again to the Commons.
I asked: ‘The role of our brave soldiers is to act as human shields for Ministers’ reputations. The danger to our soldiers has been prolonged by those on the Front Bench who have the power to stop it. Other countries have removed their soldiers and are not doing, what we are doing, in arming and training our future enemy. Is this not similar to the end of the First World War, when it was said that politicians lied and soldiers died, and the reality was, as it is now, that our brave soldier lions were being led by ministerial donkeys?’
The Speaker asked me to make clear if I was saying a Minister was lying. There was only one possible answer. My head was full of the deceptions of vain ministers since 2006, the avoidable 430 deaths and 2,000 soldiers who return home broken in mind and body.
‘Yes, ministers had lied’ I said. Exclusion was inevitable and a price worth paying.
Should have remembered that. There are time when a lie is so mountainous that it must be attacked. Lives are being thrown away because of non-existent UK terrorist threat from the Taliban.
Paul Flynn
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Posted by: Paul Flynn | September 21, 2012 at 02:08 PM
Well done Mr Flynn. But didn't anyone tell you that telling the truth in the House of shambles is not allowed?
Posted by: Chris Jones | September 20, 2012 at 05:36 PM
Thank god there is at least one mp in the House of Shambles with integrity. Maybe,just maybe the mass of cowardly mp's in there with Paul will find a sliver of a moral compass as well. One look at Hammonds face tells you all you need to know about him. Pinochio springs to mind,as does a weasel.
Posted by: Chris Jones | September 20, 2012 at 01:57 PM
Well done Paul Flynn, calling fellow MP's liars was necessary and appropriate. The House rules need reforming so that our representatives are allowed to speak freely, quote facts and falsehoods ministers have committed and spoken, dare I mention the 45 minute threat here. It is questionable when a democratic body refuses to engage with legitimate argument when they don't like the choice of words used. Thank you.
Posted by: ingo Wagenknecht | September 20, 2012 at 11:10 AM
It is good to know there are still members of the House (at least one) who are prepared to stand up and be counted. Thank you on behalf of all decent-minded people for being that one yesterday.
Posted by: John Goss | September 20, 2012 at 10:39 AM
Diolch Paul am wynebu'r celwyddgwn. Hawdd yw eistedd mewn adeilad crand yn penderfynu. Peth arall yw byw realiti'r penderfyniadau.
Posted by: E Maher | September 19, 2012 at 10:16 PM
Proud to be a Newportonian today :)
Posted by: D.G. | September 19, 2012 at 07:12 PM
Absolutely, lying should be a crime that people should be held accountable for, especially in Parliament. Thank you for doing what you did, I didn't have the opportunity but you took it for me.
Posted by: Nikolas | September 19, 2012 at 06:36 PM
Well done Paul
Posted by: John Cox | September 19, 2012 at 05:57 PM
Well done Paul Flynn!! At last a politician that speaks the truth. Keep up the good work!!
Posted by: Huw Jones | September 19, 2012 at 04:51 PM
well done,would that there were more like you with the guts and principals to stand up to this despicable unrepresentative bunch of self serving apologies for leaders.
Posted by: jerym | September 19, 2012 at 03:18 PM
Thank you Paul Flynn for speaking the truth. if only all politicians were like you. Maybe we would get a higher turn out come election day
Posted by: Debs | September 19, 2012 at 03:07 PM
Well Done Paul Flyn for saying what most of us are thinking. We have no say in these matters and it is wrong, talk about lambs to the slaughter. The Russians couldnt win in Afganistan and nobody ever will. The problem will never be solved so get our troops home.
We still have freedom of speech in this country don't we?
Posted by: margaret williams | September 19, 2012 at 03:01 PM
Thank you for your efforts Mr. Flynn. It's easier to howl with the mob than have the backbone and speak the truth. You're an upright man, Mr. Flynn, congrets.
Posted by: Booi-ingwar | September 19, 2012 at 12:45 PM
Da iawn Paul Flynn. Prin yw'r gwleidyddion gydag eqwyddorion fel hyn. Daler ati Paul.
Posted by: Brian Williams | September 19, 2012 at 11:34 AM
Mr Flynn, the age old disregard for soldiers lives by those in power needs to stop. Thank you for your efforts.
Posted by: DofB | September 19, 2012 at 11:07 AM
Absolutely right. Or is the UK just controlled from the White House?
Posted by: Eric White | September 19, 2012 at 08:46 AM