Lord West is a greatly respected GOAT. He has picked up a number of lucrative jobs after retirement. One of them is with QinetiQ, the firm that was born out of an outrageous rip-off of the taxpayers. I also asked hime about some provocative comments of war with Iran.
Q<177> <Paul Flynn:> Did you have any connection with the setting up of QinetiQ, or work with any of the other firms with which you were subsequently involved, when you were serving in the Royal Navy?
<Admiral Lord West:> That was one of the questions I was asked. The answer is that I didn’t really.
Q<178> <Chair:> Didn’t really?
<Admiral Lord West:> Well no, because I didn’t set it up, but I—
Q<179> <Chair:> What does “really” mean?
<Admiral Lord West:> That is what I was about to explain. I sat on a board that was chaired by the permanent under-secretary, and I was there as Chief of Defence Intelligence. It was basically the senior civil servants within the MOD, one of whom was the chap who set up QinetiQ from DERA. I was aware that that was being done and had been done, but I was not involved. When they asked me whether I was involved in it, I thought, “Hang on, I did go to meetings where this man was,” but I did not get involved in the mechanics of setting it up at all.
Q<180> <Paul Flynn:> I do not know whether you agree, but when QinetiQ was set up, the people who established it made fortunes by taking assets that belonged to the taxpayer at a bargain rate. Is that a fair assessment, in your view? They became very rich, and the amounts they paid for the public assets were minute, in retrospect.
<Admiral Lord West:> Shall I say “allegedly”? What I do remember is that a number of us were unhappy that a massive amount of Government intellectual property was suddenly being privatised.
Q<181> <Paul Flynn:> I mean, it was a rip-off. I know you are reluctant to say it; but I can say it. If you felt that way about it, why on earth did you go and work for them?
<Admiral Lord West:> Because it was important that it worked and ran properly. That was important. It was running all of the ranges for our military. It had some of our best scientists. The only bit that wasn’t there was the Defence Science and Technology Laboratory. So an awful lot of really important stuff was being done by them, and it was important that it was run as efficiently and well as possible.
Q<182> <Paul Flynn:> There was no thought in your mind, when you had this slight involvement in the setting up of QinetiQ—or you were there watching it, and involved—of having a job with them later on?
<Admiral Lord West:> No, none at all.
Q<183> <Paul Flynn:> Have you any financial interest at the moment in the Type 45 destroyers and the Sea Vipers?
<Admiral Lord West:> No.
Q<184> <Paul Flynn:> None whatsoever?
<Admiral Lord West:> No.
<Paul Flynn:> Okay.
<Admiral Lord West:> As I say, I tried very hard; after going into QinetiQ, and being there for that short period, when I then went into government, I thought, “Well, I don’t want to get involved with big defence firms, because I’ve noticed that the senior officers who are, are unable to speak on things”; and I thought it was too important that one was able to speak openly on all these issues, like the Type 45 destroyer and things that I think are wrong or right within defence.
Q<185> <Paul Flynn:> You carry great respect and authority, because of your service, in many ways. Do you think it is reasonable to say things like you wanted to see the Daring class and the Type 45s show their potential in the Gulf region? You said it is highly capable and you were looking forward to that happening in the Gulf. Isn’t this a comment that should not be made by someone with your reputation, as it would seem to be inciting war against Iran?
<Admiral Lord West:> No; I think I am very clear on the record, within the Lords. If you look up Hansard—
<Paul Flynn:> I have the quote here.
<Admiral Lord West>—I said that I think the elephant in the room, that we are sleepwalking towards, is a war with Iran; and I think that would be a terrible mistake. The discussion that people are having is “Isn’t a short attack now on the nuclear sites more valuable than allowing a long thing—
<Chair:> Forgive me for interrupting—
<Admiral Lord West:> Can I just finish? I very clearly said I thought that would be a very bad thing to do; but it is not quite this, is it, this—
Q<186> <Paul Flynn:> You said you would like Type 45s to show their potential in the region.
<Admiral Lord West:> Well, I would, because I think what they will do is they will show they can do counter-piracy, they will show they can show British presence; they will show their full capability. I think that is a good thing to do.
Q<187> <Paul Flynn:> And this is not inciting warfare.
<Admiral Lord West:> Absolutely not.
<Chair:> This has got nothing to do with ACoBA.
<Paul Flynn:> It is interesting, though.
<Admiral Lord West:> As I say, I very clearly said that I think an attack on Iran would be a very silly thing.
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