In the face of a mountain of evidence the mind dead bigots still spout nonsense.
Lesson: excess winter have very little to do with the cold. 30,000 additional deaths included fewer than 25 from hypothermia. There is no correlation between cold weather and peaks of high deaths. But it is a convenient bit of nonsensical propaganda from some charities that should know better.
Today's news should have prompted them to rethink. It was the coldest winter since 1995 and excess deaths fell by 30%. The charities have lined up to repeat the same irrational claims they have been preaching for decades.
"In October in Wales, the 2009 annual report by Dr Tony Jewell shows there was an estimated 2,500 extra deaths in Wales in winter compared to other times of the year – an increase of 74% compared to the year before. He said 34% of winter deaths were caused by respiratory problems, including flu, which became exacerbated by the cold."
Utter cobblers! Estimated by whom? A little statistical error here. A 74% estimated increase is actually a 34% decrease. Will Dr Jewell please explain?
The Western Mail published the news of the 30% drop with no mention of their previous gullible account of Dr Jewell's forecast. To cast a little sense on the mystery I tabled an EDM today demonstrating that the mild benign swine flu strain pushed out the killer seasonal flu. That was the major influence in reducing excess deaths. We were all scared witless by a hysterical campaign of greed and bad science.
When will someone say sorry?
That this House welcomes last winter's 30 per cent. drop in excess deaths in the coldest winter since 1995; notes the Office for National Statistics' explanation that seasonal influenza deaths fell, probably replaced by the remarkably mild swine influenza cases that caused only 150 UK deaths when 65,000 were expected and only 18,000 worldwide when four to seven million were expected; and looks forward to a less hysterical response to future threatened pandemics.
Kettled into politics
Politicians of my age are saddened by the almost total absence of political fire among teenagers. Not toady. Even Tory Monmouth and Marlow witnessed demonstrations from the over-indulged youngsters of the 21st century.
Those who were kettled in Whitehall today will be shaped by their demeaning thrilling experience. The slogans they chanted will become part of their vocabulary. The Coalition are politicising an inert generation.
Well done, David and Nick. You have made your mark. It will boomerang back on you.
The tone of your flu remarks are just the same as those opposed to climate science. You might be right, just as they might be, but you're in danger of being given the moniker of "Swine Flu Denier"
Posted by: Kay Tie | November 25, 2010 at 08:23 AM
Happy to have that moniker Kay Tie. There is a world conversation going on about about the Pandemic that never was. As the chair of the Council of Europe Sub Committee on Health I am on the independent end of the discussion. On the other end is Big Pharma and national governments defending their conduct which wasted £billions. Yesterday in the Netherlands a book went to press that quotes our work and supports strongly the case I have been making. A conference in September in Costa Rica backed the deniers case.
In this case the deniers are right. The spectacular drop in excess winter deaths vindicates spectacularly all our arguments. The dreaded Swine Flu SAVED lives by pushing out the killer seasonal swine flu.
A 30% drop in Excess Winter Flu deaths is astonishing and unprecedented - thanks to H1N1
Posted by: Paul Flynn | November 25, 2010 at 09:43 AM
I wonder if all the more sensible precautions taken - handwashing, isolating people affected, etc - might have contributed to normal seasonal flu being less prevalent than usual. It was great to find less coughing, spluttering snot-monsters on public transport.
Can we have another pandemic this year, but without the vaccines?
Posted by: DG | November 25, 2010 at 10:50 AM
"Happy to have that moniker Kay Tie."
Oh, and we need to add the "Y2K denier" in there too. You're in good company with the 9/11 Truthers and Moon Landing deniers.
I hope you won't be telling us that all this is down to the International Zionist conspiracy? If you start on with the winking eye on the pyramid and the Illuminati I'll send for the doctors. They will probably give you a 'flu jab at the same time as the Benzodiazepine.
Posted by: Kay Tie | November 25, 2010 at 12:18 PM
On the subject of student protests Paul, plese could you confirm if you'll be voting against the increase in fees?
Posted by: DG | November 25, 2010 at 05:10 PM
Paul Flynn signed the NUS pledge knowing he may well have to vote against his own party when the time came
Nick Clegg signed the NUS pledge, told students he would fight against fee rises, abolish fees if he had any power and then promptly sold out
The difference in class is immeasurable.
PS. I now hear VC's in Wales are calling for another fee rise from the assembly govt to match England...bad times
Posted by: Jonny Roberts | November 25, 2010 at 06:47 PM
Certainly Jonny and DG I will stick with all promises I made. I have greatly benefited from education that was not available to the generations of my parents and grandparents.
Posted by: Paul Flynn | November 26, 2010 at 07:52 PM
'y2K denier' ? Certainly KayTie. Another profitable hoax by the greedy that conned the gullible.
Posted by: Paul Flynn | November 26, 2010 at 07:54 PM
"Certainly KayTie. Another profitable hoax by the greedy that conned the gullible.'
Since you're not a software engineer, have never talked to people who did any work in this area, and have ignored all testimony from people with actual knowledge of the topic, I think we'll take my point as proven.
But do watch out for that albino monk.
Posted by: Kay Tie | November 26, 2010 at 08:13 PM