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December 02, 2008


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Paul Flynn

Thanks Kay Tie and Valleylad. I will follow up the links you provided.

Ken Baker

The unanswered question is - why did these attacks on Estonia succeed, and why are so many others succeeding around the world? The attacked sites either have no defences, or are supposedly protected by anti-DDoS defences which are failing. There are two main reasons existing defences are failing - first they cannot handle the large attack traffic volumes at line speed, and secondly they are trying to fight a modern war with out-of-date defences based on attempting to sort out good and bad traffic which the new sophisticated targeted attacks can easily bypass. New intelligent defences such as that developed by IntelliGuard could have mitigated these attacks and kept Estonia online. The key objective for the victims should be to stay alive (online), not trying to find and kill the enemy.


I remember reading a paper on a US hosted site that was subject to a DDOS. 40% of the attack m/c's were UK based windoze machines that had been compromised and bot-netted.

Best solution would be to make people responsible for ensuring that their machine was securely maintained.

KayTie is bang on the nail. If you want light talk to Ross and his research group they blog at http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/
(if you want noise and obfuscation talk to politicians :) )

Kay Tie

"The House of Commons insist on PCs."

Is it because the police then have the forensic tools to dig through the data on them? :-)

"WARFARE NOW DEPENDS ON SUPER-TECH DEVICES. How vulnerable are they? I will be listening carefully ti tomorow's debate,"

I hope there's more light than heat in the debate.

Can I offer some advice? Pick up the phone and give Prof. Ross Anderson at Cambridge University a call about these issues? I've heard him speak, and he's a technical expert in these matters, but also well-versed in public policy issues. He's been an expert witness in several trials too, and saved a few innocent people along the way.


Warfare always depended on "super-tech devices", whether it was a crafted sword, a longbow, a cannon, a musket, a tank, an aeroplane, wireless, radar, atomic bombs, biological stuff, networks. Since the army invented the internet, they're well aware of the risks and threats, don't worry. So are institutions like the national grid. It's business and the web that is vulnerable to this stuff, and will be until policies are put in place to protect/lessen their impact.

As new technologies come on stream, I'm sure security (of both data and supply) will be taken into consideration. That won't stop some minister leaving his laptop in a taxi though...


Tony most of my computers are Apple Macs. The House of Commons insist on PCs.

KayTie, this havoc in Estonia may have been caused by a handful of students messing about. they shut the country down. WARFARE NOW DEPENDS ON SUPER-TECH DEVICES. How vulnerable are they? I will be listening carefully ti tomorow's debate,

Kay Tie

"Tomorrow we will have new worries but few new solution"

Now let me accuse you of paranoia. The speculation about "cyber war" here is not far from the more fanciful paranoia about Y2K. For sure, there's a problem. A distributed denial of service attack on a web site can cause major problems (for an internet business particularly). And yes, taking the DVLA or HMRC off the net at a crucial time could be a problem (although the HMRC seems particularly able to do that to itself around the Self Assessment deadline!).

There is quite a step to go from some web sites under DDoS attack to taking down military equipment: it is just not realistic at present. That doesn't imply that we should be complacent, and we should have a proper threat team continually working up scenarios and then testing them, but the rest of us can sleep pretty easily, I think.


A leading internet security specialist was recently asked how to maintain their security online? The answer was 'don't but a PC'
When pressed he said ' if you must buy a PC then don't turn it on'

Point is this, how many people understand what they are doing and know what the linkages are when using the Internet - I'd say the minority and for their PC's they'll have bang up to date anti virus, firewall's not just at their ISP but on their PC as well, Malware detectors etc etc

I'm not trying to scare you but you need to get smart here and understand that a PC is a double edged weapon

And if you fancy a laugh try this - walk down Newport High Street with a wireless enabled laptop and just let me know how many open access / no restriction wireless netwroks you can find and use - I think you'll be surprised.

Its a lot like opportunistic burglers and career ones - you can stop the first with some simple precautions - the pro is a lot lot harder - so be careful out there ..

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